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good afternoon i'm tabitha thompson from

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nasa's office of communications we're at

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the kennedy space center in florida to

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discuss important research launching

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this week to the international space

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tomorrow at 5 55 pm eastern time orbital

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atk will launch its fourth commercial

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cygnus will deliver critical materials

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to directly support dozens of more than

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that will take place during the space

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station's expeditions 45 and 46.

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joining us today to discuss a few of

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those science investigations are dr kurt

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dr brian modell principal investigator

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for the packed bed reactor experiment

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cleveland ken shields director of

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eleanor mccormick who is principal of st

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school which built the st thomas more

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andrew petro program executive for the

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and finally talbot jaeger chief

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guests to provide a brief overview and

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then begin questions and answers and if

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you're following along on nasa's social

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channels we invite you to post your

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we'll start today with dr costello thank

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the iss program is really excited about

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national laboratory and as such it

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there like microgravity and the access

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when we take gravity out of the equation

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the experiment i'd like to show here

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ahead of time and then we'll go to the

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people in the room and as a reminder if

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you are following along on social

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channels and would like to submit a

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question please use the ask nasa

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first question for dr costello we

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recently celebrated 15 years of humans

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living continuously on the international

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space station and we've learned quite a

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bit during that time how do the

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experiments going up on this mission

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help further prepare us for our journey

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to mars

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sure that's a that's a great question

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back in november we actually celebrated

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15 years of continuous human presence in

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low earth orbit which is an amazing feat

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all by itself but so far we've been

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living that experience six months at a

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time

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we have data on what the what happens to

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the human body in microgravity over six

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months but there are a lot of questions

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as we move

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to further uh further out in the solar

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system and destinations like mars what's

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going to happen on a trip that lasts

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more than six months

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maybe up to eight to nine months to get

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there in eight to nine months to get

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back what happens to the human body in

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microgravity then a lot of the human

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research going on right now is related

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to our year in space which is commander

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scott kelly's

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year-long increment and our first u.s

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data point on what happens to the human

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body

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with these mechanisms that change in

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microgravity do they continue to

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deteriorate or do they stabilize over

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time that's going to help our human

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research program really understand where

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we still have risks that we need to

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address for future exploration

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thank you

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again for the overview of the packed bed

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reactor experiment

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how is this particular technology

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important to nasa and how do you see it

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being applied uh down the road

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okay as i mentioned this is very

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important technology particularly to

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water reclamation and air revitalization

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as well as delivering nutrients to plant

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systems i'd like to pull up a slide

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which shows a sort of a schematic of how

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a

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flows

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and um interestingly in almost every one

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of these

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these components these boxes

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there is at least one type of fixed

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packed bed reactor

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used

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in the early pre-treatment areas we use

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for example biological reactors and then

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as we go to the post

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processing we use high temperature

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catalytic react reactors there are also

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beds used to remove iodine and calcium

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for the polishing treatment

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thank you dr model

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for ken

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one of the projects intended for the

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station through this launch is focused

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on flame retardant textiles could you

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explain why that's important to us

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yeah sure uh tabitha that's a great

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question um milliken and company is is

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actually the company that is involved in

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this uh flame retardant uh experiment on

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space station the experiment is entitled

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uh basim and basically what millikin is

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attempting to do here what they're

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planning to do

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is to

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test the

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propagation of flames in microgravity on

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flame retardant textiles and materials

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and the anticipation is that the

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observations in in the lack of gravity

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and lack of convection will be different

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than what they observe here on earth and

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from that they're hoping that they will

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be able to make improvements or

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enhancements to these materials in these

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textiles now to me what's a very unique

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and very tangible application of this

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experiment is these enhancements and

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improvements to these materials could

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actually be used

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to save lives

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those are first responders electrical

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workers

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and and firefighters in general so this

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is a great example once again of how

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industry and the private sector can can

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exploit the international space

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station's national laboratory and

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microgravity in general we've got a

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video that we'd like to queue up right

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now that i think is a terrific way of

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explaining exactly what they're they're

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we go around

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many industries all over the country

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we're in in front of some of the top r d

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people the biggest companies uh in the

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world and these folks once they see

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about what they can do in microgravity

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they get a ton of project ideas like the

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folks here at milliken they're

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developing a flame retardant textile for

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clothing that a lot of people will wear

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we're trying to design and engineer put

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on the right chemicals such that the

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textiles don't burn so this is think of

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for the military and ied think of a

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firefighter when they're going into a

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burning building and it's really again

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trying to protect the person so they

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don't get second and third degree burns

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we try to use unique insights and

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meaningful design and deep science to

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deliver a good to the world and to our

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customer so they're flame retardant

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textiles that they're trying to develop

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uh seeing what happens when they burn

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without gravity is very important

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because gravity gets in the way of a lot

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of other phenomena so when they see that

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they can really understand what's going

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on and apply that

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back down to their processing on earth

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it's really nice to have a lot of camera

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and digital work up there so we can look

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how it burns and then we're going to get

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the samples back

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bring them here and then take them

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through a litany of analysis methods so

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we can find out how hot

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the flame was all kinds of good nerdy

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stuff

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ultimately we want to deliver an

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innovative solution to the market

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we want to protect people and we want to

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have the best product out there that

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last the longest

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so this can really save lives and that

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touches home to everyone so that's why

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it's a great partnership to work with

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milliken because the goals of their

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project and the goals of our mission

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thank you ken eleanor when you

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introduced the discussion about the

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students and you do have a large

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contingency of students and parents here

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for the launch which is pretty exciting

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you talked about the kids being involved

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in every aspect of the design and

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construction of your satellite

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could you talk a little bit about how

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you involved the students in building

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stm1

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sure thank you tabitha

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our whole experiment in building the

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satellite started the day that the

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discovery shuttle flew over d.c

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if you could just queue up that picture

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our students were

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able to form up the shuttle

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we figured if we did this out in our

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parking lot you can see our school in

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the background

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we have a playground as our parking lot

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and we figured if we did this maybe they

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would see us from space so the children

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were very excited

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we formed up the shuttle we're able to

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take a picture and it began our story

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but actually after we did this we

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realized we have children that are pre-k

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four to 13 years of age and what did

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they really know about space and split

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the space exploration so we took hold of

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a book called team moon

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which

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was written and tells the story of how

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400 000 people

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got the apollo 11 to the moon we all

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know of the famous and the first but we

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do we really know who those 400 000

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people were and we felt it was important

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for the children to know

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that many hands do make the shuttle go

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up and they learned about not only the

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astronauts and but about the technicians

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the camera people the

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scientists behind the scene

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and even down to the seamstress who

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sewed the astronaut suits maybe with the

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fabric that we will see in the future

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but

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this is what they did and the children

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came to understand it takes many people

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so we started with the book

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we took the information from the book

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and from that and many others if we

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could have our next slide we involved

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the students in every aspect here you

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see their students are building our

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antenna um that will receive the images

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from the camera that's on the cubesat if

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our next slide could also show the

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children were highly involved in the

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building of the antenna they're

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every student touched or turned a screw

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or in some way put it together took it

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apart put it together so that we would

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gain an understanding of what this piece

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was that eventually now sits on top of

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the school and has the receiver for

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the images to come through and if we

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could go to our next one

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it's a small one it's a four by four by

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four and the payload on it you can see

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right there is a cross very indicative

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of our school and who we are a medal

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blessed by the pope and the container

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that has some artifacts that

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a family was able to set up a send up

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into the

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when we launch our cube

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and there's a camera on board

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those are

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main components

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for what we have on the camera on the

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cube itself and pat will speak towards

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our testing that we did

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okay

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our cubesat which we called mission

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possible

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the children were obviously very

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involved in it one of the if you could

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pull up that next slide they we had to

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do some aerial testing high altitude

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testing of our cubesat we had to make

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sure that the camera was working we got

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it up to over 800 feet

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and it was very successful as it was the

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pictures were downloaded they were clear

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and we that was our

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we did two tests a high altitude test to

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make sure that everything would function

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it was really important for the kids to

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understand that you test and test and

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retest and in order to have a successful

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launch you don't just put it together

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and send it up

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the next slide will show um we had to do

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a fitness test a fit test and we had to

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make sure that that

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cube would actually fit into the the pod

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the deployment container and connor from

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nanorex came out there were over 400

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students in the auditorium you couldn't

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hear a sound they were so quiet because

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then he was speaking very softly telling

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them exactly what he was doing why he

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was doing it and and it was successful

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it fed and the kids were very excited

569
00:21:47,990 --> 00:21:46,480
about that

570
00:21:49,270 --> 00:21:48,000
from that if you could show the next

571
00:21:50,070 --> 00:21:49,280
slide

572
00:21:52,630 --> 00:21:50,080
um

573
00:21:55,750 --> 00:21:52,640
we've gone on quite a few field trips my

574
00:21:59,990 --> 00:21:55,760
third graders did went to air and space

575
00:22:02,230 --> 00:22:00,000
in chantilly and saw the video about the

576
00:22:04,470 --> 00:22:02,240
next step for nasa

577
00:22:07,029 --> 00:22:04,480
making sure that the astronauts can be

578
00:22:09,750 --> 00:22:07,039
out in space for long periods of time in

579
00:22:12,630 --> 00:22:09,760
order to get to mars it would be

580
00:22:15,110 --> 00:22:12,640
over nine months to get there a year

581
00:22:16,789 --> 00:22:15,120
there and nine months to come back so

582
00:22:19,830 --> 00:22:16,799
they're very excited about the

583
00:22:21,430 --> 00:22:19,840
possibility because in 20 years they are

584
00:22:23,190 --> 00:22:21,440
going to be at that point where they

585
00:22:25,430 --> 00:22:23,200
will be the scientists and the

586
00:22:28,470 --> 00:22:25,440
mathematicians and the engineers that

587
00:22:30,710 --> 00:22:28,480
will help make that a successful project

588
00:22:33,430 --> 00:22:30,720
so um this

589
00:22:35,990 --> 00:22:33,440
slide shows us the fourth grade students

590
00:22:38,950 --> 00:22:36,000
at the orbital atx

591
00:22:41,350 --> 00:22:38,960
and they are that's where the our

592
00:22:44,070 --> 00:22:41,360
cubesat is going to be packaged and put

593
00:22:45,350 --> 00:22:44,080
on so that it will be launched

594
00:22:46,230 --> 00:22:45,360
tomorrow

595
00:22:48,470 --> 00:22:46,240
and

596
00:22:50,470 --> 00:22:48,480
that was another preparation for them to

597
00:22:51,990 --> 00:22:50,480
understand that it's many hands that put

598
00:22:53,750 --> 00:22:52,000
all of this together

599
00:22:56,310 --> 00:22:53,760
our last slide

600
00:22:58,310 --> 00:22:56,320
is our signature slide and on there we

601
00:23:00,310 --> 00:22:58,320
involve the whole community all the

602
00:23:02,149 --> 00:23:00,320
students from pre-k to eighth grade have

603
00:23:05,830 --> 00:23:02,159
signed it the faculty

604
00:23:09,350 --> 00:23:05,840
the um parish we have alums have come in

605
00:23:11,270 --> 00:23:09,360
and signed it and we also had um

606
00:23:13,430 --> 00:23:11,280
community members anyone who was

607
00:23:15,350 --> 00:23:13,440
interested was involved with a project

608
00:23:17,430 --> 00:23:15,360
they were able to sign their signature

609
00:23:20,470 --> 00:23:17,440
and then we compressed it down to that

610
00:23:23,029 --> 00:23:20,480
one little metal plate that will go up

611
00:23:24,310 --> 00:23:23,039
with the cubesat

612
00:23:26,070 --> 00:23:24,320
thank you pat

613
00:23:28,230 --> 00:23:26,080
i think you guys have done a great job

614
00:23:30,710 --> 00:23:28,240
to prepare a group of students who might

615
00:23:32,470 --> 00:23:30,720
someday work for andrew

616
00:23:34,149 --> 00:23:32,480
andrew we've talked

617
00:23:37,029 --> 00:23:34,159
quite a bit over the past couple of days

618
00:23:39,190 --> 00:23:37,039
about how cubesats are so popular and

619
00:23:42,070 --> 00:23:39,200
one reason is the affordability aspect

620
00:23:43,350 --> 00:23:42,080
could you talk uh somewhat about why

621
00:23:44,630 --> 00:23:43,360
they're so affordable or what

622
00:23:46,390 --> 00:23:44,640
technologies have enabled that

623
00:23:48,630 --> 00:23:46,400
affordability

624
00:23:50,470 --> 00:23:48,640
yeah there's a couple of things one one

625
00:23:52,710 --> 00:23:50,480
is has just to do with the fact that you

626
00:23:55,110 --> 00:23:52,720
have a standard size and shape and that

627
00:23:57,350 --> 00:23:55,120
allows you to package these uh to ride

628
00:23:59,430 --> 00:23:57,360
along with other payloads in a way

629
00:24:01,110 --> 00:23:59,440
that's simpler and then therefore less

630
00:24:04,070 --> 00:24:01,120
expensive because it doesn't take a lot

631
00:24:05,990 --> 00:24:04,080
of unique engineering work to figure out

632
00:24:07,029 --> 00:24:06,000
how to package this with with the other

633
00:24:08,470 --> 00:24:07,039
payloads

634
00:24:09,990 --> 00:24:08,480
that's one thing

635
00:24:11,430 --> 00:24:10,000
in particular though with this

636
00:24:13,750 --> 00:24:11,440
particular satellite

637
00:24:15,590 --> 00:24:13,760
it's probably one of the lowest cost

638
00:24:17,350 --> 00:24:15,600
satellites uh that have been used for

639
00:24:18,549 --> 00:24:17,360
any kind of science or technology

640
00:24:21,190 --> 00:24:18,559
mission

641
00:24:22,950 --> 00:24:21,200
and i'll pull out another visual aid to

642
00:24:23,990 --> 00:24:22,960
illustrate that

643
00:24:25,430 --> 00:24:24,000
the

644
00:24:27,750 --> 00:24:25,440
computer in this

645
00:24:29,750 --> 00:24:27,760
satellite is just a smartphone it's a

646
00:24:32,549 --> 00:24:29,760
commercial off the shelf

647
00:24:34,710 --> 00:24:32,559
smartphone that's been uh programmed to

648
00:24:35,590 --> 00:24:34,720
control the satellite you know for its

649
00:24:36,710 --> 00:24:35,600
mission

650
00:24:38,470 --> 00:24:36,720
and

651
00:24:40,310 --> 00:24:38,480
this was tested a couple years ago with

652
00:24:42,950 --> 00:24:40,320
our series of phonesat missions worked

653
00:24:43,990 --> 00:24:42,960
very well uh and it's incorporated into

654
00:24:45,830 --> 00:24:44,000
this

655
00:24:47,750 --> 00:24:45,840
and a number of other satellites uh

656
00:24:48,789 --> 00:24:47,760
cubesat satellites that we're we've

657
00:24:51,990 --> 00:24:48,799
developed

658
00:24:53,350 --> 00:24:52,000
and the investment that was made uh

659
00:24:56,310 --> 00:24:53,360
decades ago

660
00:24:58,549 --> 00:24:56,320
uh in the kind of technology that

661
00:25:00,630 --> 00:24:58,559
enables the consumer products that we

662
00:25:03,029 --> 00:25:00,640
all use now

663
00:25:06,710 --> 00:25:03,039
it was considered a spin-off from um

664
00:25:08,230 --> 00:25:06,720
from all of that that r d work years ago

665
00:25:11,510 --> 00:25:08,240
we can now turn around and use that

666
00:25:13,590 --> 00:25:11,520
spin-off in the products um that we're

667
00:25:15,669 --> 00:25:13,600
you know we're developing and now we're

668
00:25:17,510 --> 00:25:15,679
able to do

669
00:25:18,950 --> 00:25:17,520
complex science missions

670
00:25:21,750 --> 00:25:18,960
using that

671
00:25:23,110 --> 00:25:21,760
type of technology and benefit

672
00:25:25,029 --> 00:25:23,120
just like everybody else does on the

673
00:25:27,029 --> 00:25:25,039
planet

674
00:25:29,590 --> 00:25:27,039
thank you andrew and i think we're all

675
00:25:31,269 --> 00:25:29,600
eyeing what you have next to you talbot

676
00:25:33,350 --> 00:25:31,279
could you talk a little bit about this

677
00:25:35,830 --> 00:25:33,360
and and also you mentioned when you did

678
00:25:37,430 --> 00:25:35,840
your overview that it has eight pieces

679
00:25:38,870 --> 00:25:37,440
only so

680
00:25:41,510 --> 00:25:38,880
yes the astronauts will be dealing with

681
00:25:43,510 --> 00:25:41,520
eight pieces all launched separately

682
00:25:45,110 --> 00:25:43,520
six of those i brought

683
00:25:48,390 --> 00:25:45,120
in their model form

684
00:25:50,070 --> 00:25:48,400
and at the risk of a live demo

685
00:25:55,830 --> 00:25:50,080
i'd like to

686
00:25:58,549 --> 00:25:55,840
will be doing they will be one by one

687
00:26:00,710 --> 00:25:58,559
assembling the the satellites at the end

688
00:26:02,549 --> 00:26:00,720
adding two solar arrays

689
00:26:04,630 --> 00:26:02,559
at this step

690
00:26:07,269 --> 00:26:04,640
this is a single cell

691
00:26:09,750 --> 00:26:07,279
of the of the satellite

692
00:26:14,470 --> 00:26:09,760
and if i can

693
00:26:18,789 --> 00:26:16,710
basically uh

694
00:26:22,710 --> 00:26:18,799
we have the astronauts

695
00:26:31,430 --> 00:26:22,720
use a mechanism to lock in

696
00:26:37,029 --> 00:26:33,750
and that's the they do that one by one

697
00:26:39,430 --> 00:26:37,039
and do the same thing for the solar rays

698
00:26:41,590 --> 00:26:39,440
and then they have a

699
00:26:43,909 --> 00:26:41,600
fully functional satellite

700
00:26:46,310 --> 00:26:43,919
that as assembled

701
00:26:49,590 --> 00:26:46,320
once it's deployed from the iss it will

702
00:26:51,909 --> 00:26:49,600
be understand that it has been assembled

703
00:26:53,669 --> 00:26:51,919
understand its components and fly just

704
00:26:55,510 --> 00:26:53,679
as a traditional satellite

705
00:26:58,230 --> 00:26:55,520
so it would be a

706
00:27:01,430 --> 00:26:58,240
unique experience to actually assemble

707
00:27:04,230 --> 00:27:01,440
a satellite in orbit this is a precursor

708
00:27:06,789 --> 00:27:04,240
to assembling them with robotics

709
00:27:09,190 --> 00:27:06,799
to assembling large larger craft than we

710
00:27:10,710 --> 00:27:09,200
have today preparing for explorations

711
00:27:12,789 --> 00:27:10,720
out into the universe

712
00:27:15,350 --> 00:27:12,799
but once we've broken down satellites

713
00:27:18,389 --> 00:27:15,360
into their basic fundamental cells

714
00:27:21,350 --> 00:27:18,399
sort of in an embryonic cellular way

715
00:27:22,950 --> 00:27:21,360
we can grow to any size not just small

716
00:27:24,470 --> 00:27:22,960
and that's where this is

717
00:27:26,470 --> 00:27:24,480
really going to come in handy as we go

718
00:27:28,230 --> 00:27:26,480
forward in space

719
00:27:30,070 --> 00:27:28,240
thank you talbot we're going to go to

720
00:27:31,909 --> 00:27:30,080
questions now in the room just a

721
00:27:33,750 --> 00:27:31,919
reminder if you're following along on

722
00:27:34,870 --> 00:27:33,760
nasa's social channels you can submit a

723
00:27:37,909 --> 00:27:34,880
question

724
00:27:40,149 --> 00:27:37,919
using the ask nasa hashtag do we have

725
00:27:42,870 --> 00:27:40,159
any questions in the room

726
00:27:44,789 --> 00:27:42,880
for any of our panelists okay

727
00:27:47,430 --> 00:27:44,799
i want to congratulate the people from

728
00:27:49,190 --> 00:27:47,440
st thomas more school on the really

729
00:27:50,149 --> 00:27:49,200
remarkable work that you seem to have

730
00:27:52,630 --> 00:27:50,159
done

731
00:27:54,710 --> 00:27:52,640
and so if we had other principals from

732
00:27:56,870 --> 00:27:54,720
other schools or other educators here in

733
00:27:58,549 --> 00:27:56,880
the room with us and they were

734
00:28:00,230 --> 00:27:58,559
interested in getting started in

735
00:28:01,830 --> 00:28:00,240
something like this what would you

736
00:28:03,510 --> 00:28:01,840
suggest that they do how do they get

737
00:28:06,149 --> 00:28:03,520
started

738
00:28:08,149 --> 00:28:06,159
well i think as with any project you

739
00:28:10,710 --> 00:28:08,159
have to really take a passion

740
00:28:12,389 --> 00:28:10,720
pull that passion into

741
00:28:14,870 --> 00:28:12,399
whether or not this is something that

742
00:28:16,870 --> 00:28:14,880
you really would take hold of and build

743
00:28:20,310 --> 00:28:16,880
into a curriculum it's not just a

744
00:28:21,510 --> 00:28:20,320
one-step idea but you have to be willing

745
00:28:23,669 --> 00:28:21,520
to

746
00:28:26,230 --> 00:28:23,679
take risks

747
00:28:27,190 --> 00:28:26,240
be willing to really come up with a plan

748
00:28:30,710 --> 00:28:27,200
that

749
00:28:34,549 --> 00:28:30,720
you believe your community would support

750
00:28:36,789 --> 00:28:34,559
and really just make it take hold and

751
00:28:39,430 --> 00:28:36,799
i guess pull together we started with a

752
00:28:41,909 --> 00:28:39,440
think tank this is how we actually began

753
00:28:44,070 --> 00:28:41,919
our project and those teachers that were

754
00:28:45,830 --> 00:28:44,080
interested in staying after school

755
00:28:47,590 --> 00:28:45,840
stayed after school and we kind of

756
00:28:50,549 --> 00:28:47,600
pulled together what do you think we

757
00:28:53,669 --> 00:28:50,559
could do the flyover was wonderful it

758
00:28:55,190 --> 00:28:53,679
brought such excitement to the school

759
00:28:56,950 --> 00:28:55,200
you felt like you could just reach up

760
00:28:59,430 --> 00:28:56,960
and touch that

761
00:29:00,789 --> 00:28:59,440
satellite i mean i'm sorry the shuttle

762
00:29:02,389 --> 00:29:00,799
and

763
00:29:04,789 --> 00:29:02,399
so what are we going to do with it how

764
00:29:07,029 --> 00:29:04,799
do we harness that excitement and we

765
00:29:09,110 --> 00:29:07,039
looked at every student being involved

766
00:29:10,870 --> 00:29:09,120
much as i had spoken of when i talked of

767
00:29:12,070 --> 00:29:10,880
team moon

768
00:29:13,669 --> 00:29:12,080
you have to make sure that you're

769
00:29:15,750 --> 00:29:13,679
reaching out to all the students and

770
00:29:18,310 --> 00:29:15,760
then how do you do that within the

771
00:29:20,950 --> 00:29:18,320
school curriculum so we brought our

772
00:29:23,830 --> 00:29:20,960
teachers along and we took hold of the

773
00:29:25,590 --> 00:29:23,840
guidelines and the standards and what's

774
00:29:28,070 --> 00:29:25,600
asked like in third grade they're to

775
00:29:31,590 --> 00:29:28,080
study gears and pulleys well how does

776
00:29:33,830 --> 00:29:31,600
that fit into a project so

777
00:29:35,909 --> 00:29:33,840
i think a principal or any person that

778
00:29:37,909 --> 00:29:35,919
was guiding the project would need to

779
00:29:40,230 --> 00:29:37,919
know what the requirement is that needs

780
00:29:43,110 --> 00:29:40,240
to be met within the school curriculum

781
00:29:45,750 --> 00:29:43,120
and then how do you embed it into that

782
00:29:47,990 --> 00:29:45,760
everyday lesson and it starts with an

783
00:29:51,590 --> 00:29:48,000
idea of one project what's your project

784
00:29:54,630 --> 00:29:51,600
going to be we chose the cubesat because

785
00:29:58,230 --> 00:29:54,640
nasa does have a program that involves

786
00:30:00,950 --> 00:29:58,240
schools in cubesats and it was available

787
00:30:03,269 --> 00:30:00,960
we're so lucky to be in washington dc

788
00:30:06,549 --> 00:30:03,279
we have all of the museums we have such

789
00:30:08,870 --> 00:30:06,559
a community willing to support us and

790
00:30:10,950 --> 00:30:08,880
that's how we chose the cubesat but you

791
00:30:13,110 --> 00:30:10,960
could do that with whatever your passion

792
00:30:15,190 --> 00:30:13,120
is maybe they have other community

793
00:30:17,750 --> 00:30:15,200
resources available

794
00:30:20,630 --> 00:30:17,760
so i would suggest you look around and

795
00:30:23,269 --> 00:30:20,640
see who's out there to help you

796
00:30:24,630 --> 00:30:23,279
and really know your guidelines and know

797
00:30:26,789 --> 00:30:24,640
where you're going down the road it

798
00:30:29,430 --> 00:30:26,799
starts with a great lesson plan and

799
00:30:31,909 --> 00:30:29,440
taking that plan forward but you have to

800
00:30:34,630 --> 00:30:31,919
have that little core of stem people

801
00:30:38,870 --> 00:30:34,640
that will stick along with you so that's

802
00:30:44,470 --> 00:30:39,590
so

803
00:30:46,230 --> 00:30:44,480
nanoracks or

804
00:30:48,470 --> 00:30:46,240
cubesat or whatever

805
00:30:51,269 --> 00:30:48,480
where do they come in at one point

806
00:30:53,590 --> 00:30:51,279
well once we knew what we wanted to do

807
00:30:55,669 --> 00:30:53,600
that we would try to build a satellite

808
00:30:56,950 --> 00:30:55,679
of course i'm admiring the others down

809
00:31:00,310 --> 00:30:56,960
the road here

810
00:31:03,990 --> 00:31:00,320
um and we did try that same antenna

811
00:31:06,310 --> 00:31:04,000
display so we we didn't make that work

812
00:31:07,990 --> 00:31:06,320
but we found another way so you look

813
00:31:10,950 --> 00:31:08,000
towards you look out and see what the

814
00:31:14,549 --> 00:31:10,960
community has so we selected the

815
00:31:17,029 --> 00:31:14,559
nano um the cubesat and we went online

816
00:31:19,029 --> 00:31:17,039
we googled it what would a cubesat be

817
00:31:21,110 --> 00:31:19,039
what would be the advantages to teaching

818
00:31:23,590 --> 00:31:21,120
about it how would it inspire the

819
00:31:25,750 --> 00:31:23,600
students what's its use

820
00:31:27,990 --> 00:31:25,760
um what would you do with it after the

821
00:31:30,870 --> 00:31:28,000
fact where would you go with it so we

822
00:31:32,470 --> 00:31:30,880
tried we chose cubesat because it was

823
00:31:34,710 --> 00:31:32,480
doable

824
00:31:37,110 --> 00:31:34,720
affordable we're a catholic school with

825
00:31:39,990 --> 00:31:37,120
limited budget

826
00:31:44,070 --> 00:31:40,000
so we went ahead and just developed from

827
00:31:46,310 --> 00:31:44,080
there all of the pieces that built the

828
00:31:48,149 --> 00:31:46,320
cube so you have testing that you have

829
00:31:50,870 --> 00:31:48,159
to pay for you saw the

830
00:31:53,590 --> 00:31:50,880
high altitude test we were fortunate

831
00:31:55,909 --> 00:31:53,600
that the company who came to perform the

832
00:31:59,590 --> 00:31:55,919
test for us charged us only for the

833
00:32:01,430 --> 00:31:59,600
helium so you work a few deals and

834
00:32:04,230 --> 00:32:01,440
and then

835
00:32:07,029 --> 00:32:04,240
nanorack came into being because they

836
00:32:09,029 --> 00:32:07,039
were the ones that would support us came

837
00:32:11,269 --> 00:32:09,039
out to see us we have a

838
00:32:13,590 --> 00:32:11,279
mission operations center built into the

839
00:32:16,070 --> 00:32:13,600
library at the school with an

840
00:32:17,590 --> 00:32:16,080
countdown clock that's ticking

841
00:32:22,870 --> 00:32:17,600
and

842
00:32:26,310 --> 00:32:22,880
children different lessons of what would

843
00:32:28,389 --> 00:32:26,320
be done and what we could do as a school

844
00:32:30,950 --> 00:32:28,399
and we just reached out to the community

845
00:32:33,509 --> 00:32:30,960
for that support nasa has been wonderful

846
00:32:35,269 --> 00:32:33,519
obviously um

847
00:32:37,909 --> 00:32:35,279
one of the very first points that we

848
00:32:39,110 --> 00:32:37,919
started with was taking the teachers to

849
00:32:40,549 --> 00:32:39,120
goddard

850
00:32:43,669 --> 00:32:40,559
because we

851
00:32:46,710 --> 00:32:43,679
aren't scientists we did a teacher field

852
00:32:50,310 --> 00:32:46,720
trip first and educate the educators and

853
00:32:55,110 --> 00:32:51,350
ken

854
00:32:56,630 --> 00:32:55,120
forum and universe today i have two

855
00:32:58,149 --> 00:32:56,640
questions one for the elementary

856
00:33:00,149 --> 00:32:58,159
teachers um i guess you're going to be

857
00:33:01,909 --> 00:33:00,159
getting images back could you talk a

858
00:33:03,909 --> 00:33:01,919
little bit about uh what you're planning

859
00:33:05,830 --> 00:33:03,919
how many you're going to get and how

860
00:33:07,909 --> 00:33:05,840
will you get those images and for for

861
00:33:10,070 --> 00:33:07,919
andy i think on the insight mission

862
00:33:11,990 --> 00:33:10,080
coming up you've got two cubesats going

863
00:33:13,909 --> 00:33:12,000
to mars i wonder if you could talk a

864
00:33:15,909 --> 00:33:13,919
little bit about that and how you've

865
00:33:17,669 --> 00:33:15,919
evolved from earth orbiting now to

866
00:33:18,470 --> 00:33:17,679
interplanetary thanks

867
00:33:20,630 --> 00:33:18,480
um

868
00:33:22,950 --> 00:33:20,640
well what we hope the cube will do we

869
00:33:26,310 --> 00:33:22,960
have a camera on board and the way the

870
00:33:28,389 --> 00:33:26,320
images should be received

871
00:33:31,029 --> 00:33:28,399
with a lot of hope

872
00:33:35,830 --> 00:33:31,039
the we have a ham radio we bought a ham

873
00:33:39,509 --> 00:33:35,840
radio and we have slow scan tv connected

874
00:33:42,230 --> 00:33:39,519
and the images once sent to us and

875
00:33:44,149 --> 00:33:42,240
goes to the ham radio

876
00:33:46,870 --> 00:33:44,159
with the software we've installed on the

877
00:33:49,350 --> 00:33:46,880
computers they should be able to produce

878
00:33:52,230 --> 00:33:49,360
the images that we're uh hoping the

879
00:33:54,070 --> 00:33:52,240
camera will take we actually did do a

880
00:33:56,549 --> 00:33:54,080
check on

881
00:33:57,750 --> 00:33:56,559
images sent and received via the ham

882
00:34:00,789 --> 00:33:57,760
radio

883
00:34:02,710 --> 00:34:00,799
and oh by the way we did not know when

884
00:34:06,549 --> 00:34:02,720
we started this whole project you had to

885
00:34:09,270 --> 00:34:06,559
be licensed as a ham radio operator so

886
00:34:12,069 --> 00:34:09,280
we learned a lot and what you do when

887
00:34:14,710 --> 00:34:12,079
you find out on a sunday that your fit

888
00:34:17,430 --> 00:34:14,720
chat your high altitude test is on that

889
00:34:20,230 --> 00:34:17,440
wednesday and you're hoping that the ham

890
00:34:22,230 --> 00:34:20,240
radio will receive and we found out we

891
00:34:23,750 --> 00:34:22,240
had to be licensed we borrowed a

892
00:34:26,710 --> 00:34:23,760
community member

893
00:34:29,510 --> 00:34:26,720
who had his license who we give space to

894
00:34:32,710 --> 00:34:29,520
to use in the school and he agreed to

895
00:34:34,950 --> 00:34:32,720
come and be the licensed operator so

896
00:34:37,589 --> 00:34:34,960
that's how we hope to receive them we

897
00:34:39,669 --> 00:34:37,599
have two backup systems

898
00:34:41,430 --> 00:34:39,679
in case the ham radio doesn't work we

899
00:34:44,629 --> 00:34:41,440
have a portable antenna we have the

900
00:34:47,030 --> 00:34:44,639
antenna i described and

901
00:34:49,909 --> 00:34:47,040
that should hopefully produce an image

902
00:34:51,750 --> 00:34:49,919
and then we do have our mocks of remote

903
00:34:53,270 --> 00:34:51,760
mission operation centers around the

904
00:34:56,869 --> 00:34:53,280
world

905
00:34:59,750 --> 00:34:56,879
and other ham radio operators that

906
00:35:01,190 --> 00:34:59,760
hopefully will collect something as the

907
00:35:04,069 --> 00:35:01,200
cameras

908
00:35:06,310 --> 00:35:04,079
producing some images and send those

909
00:35:08,069 --> 00:35:06,320
along to us so the students project

910
00:35:10,950 --> 00:35:08,079
doesn't end with the launch though we'll

911
00:35:13,349 --> 00:35:10,960
be very grateful when it does go um

912
00:35:14,829 --> 00:35:13,359
and it will just then evolve into

913
00:35:17,829 --> 00:35:14,839
lessons about

914
00:35:19,670 --> 00:35:17,839
um cameras pictures

915
00:35:23,109 --> 00:35:19,680
what would be the reason you take them

916
00:35:25,910 --> 00:35:24,470
okay on the question i'm glad you

917
00:35:28,870 --> 00:35:25,920
brought up you're talking about the

918
00:35:30,470 --> 00:35:28,880
marco cubesats

919
00:35:32,870 --> 00:35:30,480
and going back

920
00:35:34,870 --> 00:35:32,880
the our program has a project called

921
00:35:37,190 --> 00:35:34,880
asara which is a jpl

922
00:35:39,829 --> 00:35:37,200
aerospace corporation

923
00:35:42,710 --> 00:35:39,839
project to demonstrate a high gain

924
00:35:45,589 --> 00:35:42,720
antenna on a cubesat it uses the back of

925
00:35:46,310 --> 00:35:45,599
a deployable solar panel as a reflector

926
00:35:58,710 --> 00:35:46,320
a

927
00:36:02,630 --> 00:35:58,720
uh

928
00:36:05,510 --> 00:36:02,640
others at jpl have taken that idea and

929
00:36:08,470 --> 00:36:05,520
applied it for the marco cubesats which

930
00:36:11,270 --> 00:36:08,480
are two 6u cubesats that will fly along

931
00:36:13,910 --> 00:36:11,280
with the insight mission to mars

932
00:36:15,430 --> 00:36:13,920
they'll separate from the the main

933
00:36:18,390 --> 00:36:15,440
spacecraft that's going to land on mars

934
00:36:21,190 --> 00:36:18,400
and and serve as a communications relay

935
00:36:23,190 --> 00:36:21,200
during the descent and landing

936
00:36:25,349 --> 00:36:23,200
so for us this is a great success

937
00:36:27,430 --> 00:36:25,359
because it's a technology we invested in

938
00:36:28,710 --> 00:36:27,440
a couple of years ago that project's

939
00:36:31,910 --> 00:36:28,720
coming along to demonstrate the

940
00:36:35,510 --> 00:36:31,920
technology but the concept has already

941
00:36:37,030 --> 00:36:35,520
been applied for another mission that's

942
00:36:38,470 --> 00:36:37,040
not an earth orbit it's going all the

943
00:36:40,150 --> 00:36:38,480
way to mars so

944
00:36:42,230 --> 00:36:40,160
i think it's probably one of the first

945
00:36:44,710 --> 00:36:42,240
examples of anything like that

946
00:36:48,069 --> 00:36:44,720
in terms of using cubesat scale

947
00:36:50,470 --> 00:36:48,079
spacecraft on a interplanetary mission

948
00:36:53,670 --> 00:36:50,480
and it's also a great success

949
00:36:55,190 --> 00:36:53,680
to see a technology that we invested in

950
00:36:57,990 --> 00:36:55,200
being so quickly

951
00:36:59,910 --> 00:36:58,000
applied in a real mission

952
00:37:02,230 --> 00:36:59,920
thank you andrew and i believe we have

953
00:37:09,670 --> 00:37:02,240
now a question from fox news on the

954
00:37:13,190 --> 00:37:11,510
hello this is phil keating thank you

955
00:37:17,109 --> 00:37:13,200
very much and i'd like to address my

956
00:37:21,349 --> 00:37:18,630
you know children as you all know are

957
00:37:22,790 --> 00:37:21,359
the dreamers and

958
00:37:25,349 --> 00:37:22,800
your kids have put in a whole lot of

959
00:37:26,630 --> 00:37:25,359
heart and soul and time and energy into

960
00:37:29,349 --> 00:37:26,640
this mission

961
00:37:31,430 --> 00:37:29,359
uh unfortunately uh occasionally as we

962
00:37:34,150 --> 00:37:31,440
have learned over the past year as the

963
00:37:36,710 --> 00:37:34,160
past two u.s commercial

964
00:37:39,030 --> 00:37:36,720
space companies had disasters trying to

965
00:37:40,550 --> 00:37:39,040
launch satellites and science

966
00:37:43,430 --> 00:37:40,560
experiments

967
00:37:45,910 --> 00:37:43,440
um for all of the

968
00:37:47,430 --> 00:37:45,920
scientists of all ages who have invested

969
00:37:48,950 --> 00:37:47,440
so much time you know it's absolutely

970
00:37:50,790 --> 00:37:48,960
devastating so

971
00:37:53,750 --> 00:37:50,800
i'm wondering

972
00:37:56,230 --> 00:37:53,760
how much devotion and dedication and

973
00:37:57,430 --> 00:37:56,240
time have your students put into this

974
00:37:59,750 --> 00:37:57,440
and what are they

975
00:38:02,870 --> 00:37:59,760
doing to ensure this is going to be a

976
00:38:04,630 --> 00:38:02,880
flawless delivery to the space station

977
00:38:07,670 --> 00:38:04,640
lots of prayers

978
00:38:10,550 --> 00:38:07,680
that's what we start with um but it has

979
00:38:14,230 --> 00:38:10,560
been about a three-year process

980
00:38:16,710 --> 00:38:14,240
the flyover really was the point that

981
00:38:21,030 --> 00:38:16,720
solidified where we were going

982
00:38:24,790 --> 00:38:21,040
um prior to that we had robotic clubs uh

983
00:38:27,750 --> 00:38:24,800
built into our curriculum and we also

984
00:38:31,109 --> 00:38:27,760
had a program that comes out of mit and

985
00:38:34,230 --> 00:38:31,119
now is with the navy um the sea perch

986
00:38:37,270 --> 00:38:34,240
program so our students had a lot of

987
00:38:39,349 --> 00:38:37,280
time invested before the cubesat in the

988
00:38:41,190 --> 00:38:39,359
robotic field and in electrical

989
00:38:43,430 --> 00:38:41,200
components as they

990
00:38:44,790 --> 00:38:43,440
built their underwater rovers

991
00:38:47,109 --> 00:38:44,800
and

992
00:38:49,910 --> 00:38:47,119
then the cubesats sort of solidified

993
00:38:50,710 --> 00:38:49,920
into three years but we spoke along the

994
00:38:53,349 --> 00:38:50,720
way

995
00:38:56,390 --> 00:38:53,359
um it's a process

996
00:38:57,430 --> 00:38:56,400
if the cube never was to launch it was a

997
00:39:01,670 --> 00:38:57,440
process

998
00:39:03,829 --> 00:39:01,680
the learning that takes place was key

999
00:39:05,990 --> 00:39:03,839
and we wanted the students to be able to

1000
00:39:08,710 --> 00:39:06,000
see that things that are worthwhile

1001
00:39:10,710 --> 00:39:08,720
sometimes take a long time

1002
00:39:13,430 --> 00:39:10,720
and it takes many people to be involved

1003
00:39:16,150 --> 00:39:13,440
and we did have failure to some degree

1004
00:39:19,589 --> 00:39:16,160
with our antenna we tried the

1005
00:39:21,790 --> 00:39:19,599
um to use the tape measure so to speak

1006
00:39:24,630 --> 00:39:21,800
and the children went through a lot of

1007
00:39:28,390 --> 00:39:24,640
experimentation and what adhesive would

1008
00:39:30,310 --> 00:39:28,400
hold etc and we never could get it to

1009
00:39:32,550 --> 00:39:30,320
the point that it was approved by nasa

1010
00:39:34,550 --> 00:39:32,560
so we went to a different method so the

1011
00:39:36,950 --> 00:39:34,560
children have known some failures along

1012
00:39:39,990 --> 00:39:36,960
the way but we simply look at them as

1013
00:39:42,069 --> 00:39:40,000
opportunities for growth

1014
00:39:45,430 --> 00:39:42,079
thinking outside the box what other way

1015
00:39:48,310 --> 00:39:45,440
can we do it so

1016
00:39:51,589 --> 00:39:48,320
i believe the children have gained a ton

1017
00:39:54,150 --> 00:39:51,599
of information just to know that there

1018
00:39:56,790 --> 00:39:54,160
takes many little pieces and parts to

1019
00:39:58,950 --> 00:39:56,800
make the bigger ones work they'll be

1020
00:40:00,870 --> 00:39:58,960
quite fascinated to know that they can

1021
00:40:03,270 --> 00:40:00,880
build to that but i think they're really

1022
00:40:05,190 --> 00:40:03,280
going to be fascinated knowing that

1023
00:40:06,550 --> 00:40:05,200
another school

1024
00:40:08,950 --> 00:40:06,560
entity

1025
00:40:12,309 --> 00:40:08,960
was able to make the tape measure work

1026
00:40:15,430 --> 00:40:12,319
so we'll continue to explore and

1027
00:40:17,670 --> 00:40:15,440
use some of those prior failures so to

1028
00:40:19,670 --> 00:40:17,680
speak as those opportunities for where

1029
00:40:21,510 --> 00:40:19,680
we'll go in the future

1030
00:40:23,030 --> 00:40:21,520
yeah tabitha i'd like to expand on that

1031
00:40:25,349 --> 00:40:23,040
answer and eleanor that was great and

1032
00:40:27,430 --> 00:40:25,359
and to also address phil's uh question

1033
00:40:29,430 --> 00:40:27,440
about failures and how students and

1034
00:40:30,950 --> 00:40:29,440
educators respond and i think that's one

1035
00:40:32,790 --> 00:40:30,960
of the greatest

1036
00:40:35,190 --> 00:40:32,800
lessons that that our kids learn from

1037
00:40:37,109 --> 00:40:35,200
these project based

1038
00:40:38,470 --> 00:40:37,119
stem opportunities number one they're

1039
00:40:40,150 --> 00:40:38,480
learning to collaborate they're learning

1040
00:40:41,910 --> 00:40:40,160
the true meaning of teamwork and they're

1041
00:40:44,150 --> 00:40:41,920
learning about failure they're actually

1042
00:40:47,270 --> 00:40:44,160
learning hands-on the tangible meaning

1043
00:40:49,349 --> 00:40:47,280
of how failure is a step towards success

1044
00:40:51,430 --> 00:40:49,359
on this launch oa4 i think it's a great

1045
00:40:53,109 --> 00:40:51,440
opportunity we've got oa4

1046
00:40:55,829 --> 00:40:53,119
represents the return to flight of our

1047
00:40:57,910 --> 00:40:55,839
commercial resupply missions it also

1048
00:41:00,150 --> 00:40:57,920
signifies and represents the return to

1049
00:41:01,829 --> 00:41:00,160
flight of no less than five stem

1050
00:41:04,550 --> 00:41:01,839
experiments that were lost on those

1051
00:41:06,950 --> 00:41:04,560
launch anomalies that phil from fox

1052
00:41:08,710 --> 00:41:06,960
alluded to so i can tell you from

1053
00:41:09,990 --> 00:41:08,720
personal experience in our stem world at

1054
00:41:12,150 --> 00:41:10,000
the national laboratory we were

1055
00:41:13,990 --> 00:41:12,160
certainly impacted by those anomalies we

1056
00:41:16,309 --> 00:41:14,000
had several schools that lost those

1057
00:41:18,390 --> 00:41:16,319
payloads and not a single one of them

1058
00:41:19,190 --> 00:41:18,400
even hesitated for the chance to refly

1059
00:41:20,630 --> 00:41:19,200
again

1060
00:41:22,950 --> 00:41:20,640
we're looking forward to re-flying a lot

1061
00:41:25,670 --> 00:41:22,960
of those missions in 2016 but tomorrow

1062
00:41:28,309 --> 00:41:25,680
represents uh five schools coming back

1063
00:41:30,150 --> 00:41:28,319
to flight who lost it so that's a great

1064
00:41:31,430 --> 00:41:30,160
example of of a life lesson and

1065
00:41:33,190 --> 00:41:31,440
something that i think these kids and

1066
00:41:35,190 --> 00:41:33,200
even educators will carry with them for

1067
00:41:37,030 --> 00:41:35,200
their entire life

1068
00:41:41,750 --> 00:41:37,040
thank you ken we had a question from

1069
00:41:47,030 --> 00:41:44,069
hi thanks so james in florida today

1070
00:41:49,430 --> 00:41:47,040
mr costello you had uh talked about the

1071
00:41:51,190 --> 00:41:49,440
year-long mission and and obviously the

1072
00:41:53,829 --> 00:41:51,200
longer trips to come to mars i was just

1073
00:41:55,990 --> 00:41:53,839
curious um what is the status of

1074
00:41:57,829 --> 00:41:56,000
assigning another year-long mission

1075
00:41:59,670 --> 00:41:57,839
and you know beyond this one data point

1076
00:42:02,230 --> 00:41:59,680
how many more of those do you expect to

1077
00:42:04,870 --> 00:42:02,240
to collect in the in the coming years

1078
00:42:06,470 --> 00:42:04,880
that's a good question um

1079
00:42:08,470 --> 00:42:06,480
of course the science you can do with

1080
00:42:09,430 --> 00:42:08,480
one data point is kind of limited we

1081
00:42:11,829 --> 00:42:09,440
were

1082
00:42:13,750 --> 00:42:11,839
literally blessed in in this occurrence

1083
00:42:17,430 --> 00:42:13,760
to to find that we had

1084
00:42:19,589 --> 00:42:17,440
uh an identical twin in uh and mark

1085
00:42:21,670 --> 00:42:19,599
kelly on the ground so that actually

1086
00:42:24,230 --> 00:42:21,680
gives us uh

1087
00:42:27,510 --> 00:42:24,240
another identical uh twin to compare

1088
00:42:29,430 --> 00:42:27,520
genetics studies with we also have

1089
00:42:31,270 --> 00:42:29,440
the data from the russian crew member

1090
00:42:33,589 --> 00:42:31,280
who's participating so we have an n of

1091
00:42:35,349 --> 00:42:33,599
two already additional one-year studies

1092
00:42:37,589 --> 00:42:35,359
are under review right now and we're in

1093
00:42:39,670 --> 00:42:37,599
negotiations with

1094
00:42:42,710 --> 00:42:39,680
the the human research program and

1095
00:42:44,870 --> 00:42:42,720
russia to determine when and if those

1096
00:42:47,349 --> 00:42:44,880
would happen in the future but there is

1097
00:42:50,470 --> 00:42:47,359
a a plan to try and generate this data

1098
00:42:52,870 --> 00:42:50,480
particularly if we see anything

1099
00:42:53,829 --> 00:42:52,880
coincidental come back in these first

1100
00:42:57,510 --> 00:42:53,839
studies

1101
00:42:59,750 --> 00:42:57,520
again we have limited data up to the the

1102
00:43:02,150 --> 00:42:59,760
one year mark some of that com going

1103
00:43:04,230 --> 00:43:02,160
back to the old russian mir missions but

1104
00:43:06,470 --> 00:43:04,240
they haven't used the same controls that

1105
00:43:08,870 --> 00:43:06,480
our studies have so we're trying to

1106
00:43:10,710 --> 00:43:08,880
expand on that use the same studies that

1107
00:43:12,790 --> 00:43:10,720
we've already laid out for six months to

1108
00:43:14,870 --> 00:43:12,800
see if we run into any anomalies past

1109
00:43:16,710 --> 00:43:14,880
six months

1110
00:43:18,470 --> 00:43:16,720
it's difficult to tell with just a

1111
00:43:21,510 --> 00:43:18,480
couple data points but certainly if you

1112
00:43:26,150 --> 00:43:21,520
see a big change in one area that's an

1113
00:43:33,430 --> 00:43:29,190
obviously a little ways to go for uh

1114
00:43:35,270 --> 00:43:33,440
scott and mikhail but um does anything

1115
00:43:37,430 --> 00:43:35,280
generally kind of stand out so far at

1116
00:43:39,750 --> 00:43:37,440
this point as you push beyond that sort

1117
00:43:42,230 --> 00:43:39,760
of typical six-month

1118
00:43:44,950 --> 00:43:42,240
increment uh

1119
00:43:46,870 --> 00:43:44,960
anything interesting or is it more as

1120
00:43:47,910 --> 00:43:46,880
we might expect like sort of the mental

1121
00:43:51,910 --> 00:43:47,920
um

1122
00:43:56,550 --> 00:43:53,829
scott's doing great

1123
00:43:59,349 --> 00:43:56,560
and he'll be back soon his his one year

1124
00:44:00,950 --> 00:43:59,359
increment is almost up and

1125
00:44:03,109 --> 00:44:00,960
some of the interesting things about our

1126
00:44:06,069 --> 00:44:03,119
human research is that most of it

1127
00:44:07,430 --> 00:44:06,079
contains a pre and post measurement

1128
00:44:09,510 --> 00:44:07,440
factor to it

1129
00:44:11,589 --> 00:44:09,520
where that data is collected before they

1130
00:44:14,630 --> 00:44:11,599
fly and then once they return to the

1131
00:44:16,550 --> 00:44:14,640
ground so in order to process a lot of

1132
00:44:19,109 --> 00:44:16,560
these investigations you have to have

1133
00:44:21,109 --> 00:44:19,119
both the pre and post data first and so

1134
00:44:24,069 --> 00:44:21,119
most of the results will come after we

1135
00:44:26,470 --> 00:44:25,430
thank you we had another question in the

1136
00:44:28,230 --> 00:44:26,480
audience

1137
00:44:30,630 --> 00:44:28,240
yeah hi bill howard with cbs news two

1138
00:44:32,309 --> 00:44:30,640
quick ones one for uh the principal um

1139
00:44:34,069 --> 00:44:32,319
how much did this cost you guys and and

1140
00:44:35,589 --> 00:44:34,079
how did you raise the money

1141
00:44:37,510 --> 00:44:35,599
and then have a follow-up

1142
00:44:42,790 --> 00:44:37,520
um

1143
00:44:45,030 --> 00:44:42,800
somewhere in the area of about thirty

1144
00:44:45,910 --> 00:44:45,040
thousand dollars is where we are right

1145
00:44:46,790 --> 00:44:45,920
now

1146
00:44:48,390 --> 00:44:46,800
um

1147
00:44:52,069 --> 00:44:48,400
we were able to

1148
00:44:54,550 --> 00:44:52,079
ask for grants that were made available

1149
00:44:56,230 --> 00:44:54,560
if you really look out there for

1150
00:44:59,430 --> 00:44:56,240
monies that follow

1151
00:45:01,430 --> 00:44:59,440
stem research and stem in education

1152
00:45:05,109 --> 00:45:01,440
there are grants to be had and that's

1153
00:45:07,589 --> 00:45:05,119
what we did we also had some community

1154
00:45:10,150 --> 00:45:07,599
parents who came forward

1155
00:45:12,550 --> 00:45:10,160
and supported the program and as

1156
00:45:14,950 --> 00:45:12,560
individuals and our pto our

1157
00:45:16,230 --> 00:45:14,960
parent-teacher organization has an

1158
00:45:19,030 --> 00:45:16,240
auction

1159
00:45:20,950 --> 00:45:19,040
fundraiser and some of the funding came

1160
00:45:22,150 --> 00:45:20,960
from that area so

1161
00:45:24,870 --> 00:45:22,160
in the

1162
00:45:27,990 --> 00:45:24,880
total of what we've spent maybe around

1163
00:45:29,990 --> 00:45:28,000
fifty thousand dollars but the monies

1164
00:45:33,190 --> 00:45:30,000
actually come

1165
00:45:36,309 --> 00:45:33,200
through grants and donations

1166
00:45:38,550 --> 00:45:36,319
and had not tapped the school budget

1167
00:45:39,829 --> 00:45:38,560
so that was an important factor for us

1168
00:45:41,190 --> 00:45:39,839
but um

1169
00:45:43,430 --> 00:45:41,200
and i believe that that would be

1170
00:45:46,870 --> 00:45:43,440
available for most people

1171
00:45:48,390 --> 00:45:46,880
for a tablet on the end um i'm a little

1172
00:45:50,950 --> 00:45:48,400
trying to visualize the usage you're

1173
00:45:52,550 --> 00:45:50,960
envisioning for this this assembled

1174
00:45:54,069 --> 00:45:52,560
satellite in other words how you said

1175
00:45:55,750 --> 00:45:54,079
you can you know it's expandable

1176
00:45:57,109 --> 00:45:55,760
obviously but what does that mean how

1177
00:45:59,589 --> 00:45:57,119
big would this thing

1178
00:46:01,670 --> 00:45:59,599
could you make one or or how small i

1179
00:46:04,069 --> 00:46:01,680
mean i'm just curious as to

1180
00:46:06,870 --> 00:46:04,079
i'm not sure understand the architecture

1181
00:46:09,829 --> 00:46:06,880
so the architecture is focusing on two

1182
00:46:12,069 --> 00:46:09,839
real aspects the the first is because

1183
00:46:15,430 --> 00:46:12,079
it's made from a

1184
00:46:17,430 --> 00:46:15,440
a fairly simple cell and it gets its

1185
00:46:18,470 --> 00:46:17,440
nature from the multiplicity of those

1186
00:46:20,710 --> 00:46:18,480
cells

1187
00:46:22,630 --> 00:46:20,720
you get the first advantage that we were

1188
00:46:24,790 --> 00:46:22,640
going after and that is a mass

1189
00:46:26,390 --> 00:46:24,800
producible item the cost of this can

1190
00:46:27,589 --> 00:46:26,400
come way down from traditional

1191
00:46:32,870 --> 00:46:27,599
satellites

1192
00:46:34,390 --> 00:46:32,880
size at a lower cost so the first

1193
00:46:36,950 --> 00:46:34,400
thing we're going for is just simply

1194
00:46:38,790 --> 00:46:36,960
cost reduction this is a way to build at

1195
00:46:41,990 --> 00:46:38,800
a cost level that we haven't been able

1196
00:46:43,829 --> 00:46:42,000
to do in space other than in cubesats

1197
00:46:45,829 --> 00:46:43,839
where there's a lot of subsidy for the

1198
00:46:48,309 --> 00:46:45,839
launch

1199
00:46:52,150 --> 00:46:48,319
this brings up a whole capability of

1200
00:46:54,069 --> 00:46:52,160
more sizes so that's step one

1201
00:46:56,230 --> 00:46:54,079
what you would what would you do and how

1202
00:46:59,750 --> 00:46:56,240
large it would get we currently have

1203
00:47:01,270 --> 00:46:59,760
designed it to go up to 3000 pounds so

1204
00:47:06,390 --> 00:47:01,280
where the next one we're launching

1205
00:47:07,430 --> 00:47:06,400
actually is going to be a 330 pound

1206
00:47:09,750 --> 00:47:07,440
launch

1207
00:47:11,190 --> 00:47:09,760
and they just get bigger so we've tested

1208
00:47:13,109 --> 00:47:11,200
and analyzed

1209
00:47:15,670 --> 00:47:13,119
very large satellites

1210
00:47:19,589 --> 00:47:15,680
this should be able to

1211
00:47:21,829 --> 00:47:19,599
not only provide rapid research

1212
00:47:23,589 --> 00:47:21,839
just like you saw me assemble this like

1213
00:47:26,470 --> 00:47:23,599
an astronauts would

1214
00:47:28,870 --> 00:47:26,480
we have a high school and colleges

1215
00:47:30,549 --> 00:47:28,880
working we have the

1216
00:47:34,150 --> 00:47:30,559
the navy

1217
00:47:35,589 --> 00:47:34,160
academy we have stanford who have built

1218
00:47:38,390 --> 00:47:35,599
some of the payloads and they just plug

1219
00:47:41,270 --> 00:47:38,400
them on so it allows a lot of the next

1220
00:47:43,190 --> 00:47:41,280
generation of engineers to rapidly do

1221
00:47:44,069 --> 00:47:43,200
things they can't quickly do today they

1222
00:47:45,670 --> 00:47:44,079
can

1223
00:47:48,470 --> 00:47:45,680
assemble it the same way you see so

1224
00:47:51,670 --> 00:47:48,480
that's another thing we're looking for

1225
00:47:54,630 --> 00:47:51,680
flexibility speed low cost

1226
00:47:57,589 --> 00:47:54,640
and and going to the next size up we're

1227
00:47:59,270 --> 00:47:57,599
really now figuring out how to work

1228
00:48:01,030 --> 00:47:59,280
with the small

1229
00:48:02,630 --> 00:48:01,040
and now we need to go to the next level

1230
00:48:04,950 --> 00:48:02,640
and figure out how to get back the

1231
00:48:06,390 --> 00:48:04,960
capabilities that we that we need in

1232
00:48:07,829 --> 00:48:06,400
some science

1233
00:48:09,829 --> 00:48:07,839
with aperture

1234
00:48:11,910 --> 00:48:09,839
some science is still very restricted by

1235
00:48:13,030 --> 00:48:11,920
aperture it needs size

1236
00:48:14,069 --> 00:48:13,040
uh

1237
00:48:17,589 --> 00:48:14,079
and

1238
00:48:20,150 --> 00:48:17,599
do need to get large sometimes in space

1239
00:48:21,270 --> 00:48:20,160
as you get farther from the earth so

1240
00:48:23,270 --> 00:48:21,280
this is where we're headed we're trying

1241
00:48:26,069 --> 00:48:23,280
to give that capability back to the

1242
00:48:26,079 --> 00:48:30,390
thank you bill other questions hurry

1243
00:48:34,230 --> 00:48:32,710
um irene klotz with reuters so what's

1244
00:48:36,549 --> 00:48:34,240
going to happen to that satellite after

1245
00:48:38,870 --> 00:48:36,559
the astronauts put it together and is

1246
00:48:41,430 --> 00:48:38,880
there any possibility or any plans in

1247
00:48:42,870 --> 00:48:41,440
the future to actually deploy anything

1248
00:48:43,829 --> 00:48:42,880
like that from the space from the

1249
00:48:45,750 --> 00:48:43,839
station

1250
00:48:47,589 --> 00:48:45,760
so after the after the astronauts put

1251
00:48:51,030 --> 00:48:47,599
this together they will actually deploy

1252
00:48:52,950 --> 00:48:51,040
it they will nanorax is

1253
00:48:54,230 --> 00:48:52,960
is putting together a deployment system

1254
00:48:56,150 --> 00:48:54,240
called caber

1255
00:49:00,069 --> 00:48:56,160
this will be attached to it and it will

1256
00:49:01,190 --> 00:49:00,079
be launched from the iss it currently in

1257
00:49:04,150 --> 00:49:01,200
its

1258
00:49:06,710 --> 00:49:04,160
first mission here carries

1259
00:49:08,150 --> 00:49:06,720
three payloads three

1260
00:49:08,950 --> 00:49:08,160
uh payloads that have been attached to

1261
00:49:11,430 --> 00:49:08,960
it

1262
00:49:14,710 --> 00:49:11,440
one is as i mentioned is a stanford

1263
00:49:16,549 --> 00:49:14,720
university camera called snaps

1264
00:49:18,790 --> 00:49:16,559
it's a more than a camera it's a really

1265
00:49:20,390 --> 00:49:18,800
a camcorder it's a video recorder it's

1266
00:49:22,470 --> 00:49:20,400
going to record the deployment of the

1267
00:49:24,230 --> 00:49:22,480
solar arrays since this is the very

1268
00:49:26,470 --> 00:49:24,240
first time we've used this technology we

1269
00:49:28,390 --> 00:49:26,480
want to look at how it deploys and how

1270
00:49:30,790 --> 00:49:28,400
it comes alive

1271
00:49:32,710 --> 00:49:30,800
we're also carrying a

1272
00:49:33,990 --> 00:49:32,720
uh

1273
00:49:36,470 --> 00:49:34,000
usna

1274
00:49:38,710 --> 00:49:36,480
united states naval academy

1275
00:49:41,190 --> 00:49:38,720
quickcom1 it's called it's an amateur

1276
00:49:45,109 --> 00:49:41,200
payload the students have built it as an

1277
00:49:46,870 --> 00:49:45,119
amateur radio and this is actually

1278
00:49:49,030 --> 00:49:46,880
officially designated as an oscar

1279
00:49:50,630 --> 00:49:49,040
satellite an orbital satellite

1280
00:49:53,750 --> 00:49:50,640
carrying amateur radio they call them

1281
00:49:55,670 --> 00:49:53,760
oscars and that will come alive

1282
00:49:58,309 --> 00:49:55,680
and beacon around the world when it

1283
00:50:00,390 --> 00:49:58,319
comes over the u.s it will actually

1284
00:50:03,109 --> 00:50:00,400
notify amateur radio

1285
00:50:06,069 --> 00:50:03,119
hams and kids and stem all around the

1286
00:50:07,190 --> 00:50:06,079
world to contact it and use what's

1287
00:50:09,510 --> 00:50:07,200
called an

1288
00:50:11,990 --> 00:50:09,520
automated packet reporting system

1289
00:50:14,870 --> 00:50:12,000
and it will tell them where it is it

1290
00:50:16,470 --> 00:50:14,880
will be able to relay messages from

1291
00:50:17,829 --> 00:50:16,480
locations that are disadvantaged in

1292
00:50:19,670 --> 00:50:17,839
their com

1293
00:50:22,470 --> 00:50:19,680
it's a wonderful

1294
00:50:24,549 --> 00:50:22,480
student a university-based package we've

1295
00:50:27,750 --> 00:50:24,559
applied and it has a third payload which

1296
00:50:31,030 --> 00:50:27,760
is a darpa payload which was provided to

1297
00:50:34,069 --> 00:50:31,040
test out a new type of radio it's a

1298
00:50:35,910 --> 00:50:34,079
wonderful system that changes the comms

1299
00:50:38,230 --> 00:50:35,920
that we have in space we currently use a

1300
00:50:40,230 --> 00:50:38,240
very

1301
00:50:41,990 --> 00:50:40,240
dated technology we're in the world of

1302
00:50:44,230 --> 00:50:42,000
the internet this is an internet

1303
00:50:46,390 --> 00:50:44,240
communication system it actually pulls

1304
00:50:49,030 --> 00:50:46,400
web pages down from the from the

1305
00:50:51,430 --> 00:50:49,040
distributed system so you act it acts as

1306
00:50:53,190 --> 00:50:51,440
a web client and no longer as a command

1307
00:50:56,230 --> 00:50:53,200
and telemetry system so we have some

1308
00:50:58,069 --> 00:50:56,240
amazing first payloads going on here uh

1309
00:51:00,069 --> 00:50:58,079
that were that we're trying to to

1310
00:51:01,670 --> 00:51:00,079
demonstrate

1311
00:51:04,230 --> 00:51:01,680
um and then i also have a question for

1312
00:51:07,030 --> 00:51:04,240
kirk could you just uh maybe touch on

1313
00:51:09,589 --> 00:51:07,040
some of the research programs that were

1314
00:51:11,030 --> 00:51:09,599
most affected by this five-month delay

1315
00:51:13,270 --> 00:51:11,040
in having

1316
00:51:14,790 --> 00:51:13,280
commercial cargo from flying from the

1317
00:51:15,750 --> 00:51:14,800
u.s

1318
00:51:18,150 --> 00:51:15,760
sure

1319
00:51:20,150 --> 00:51:18,160
a lot of the

1320
00:51:23,349 --> 00:51:20,160
payloads going scientific payloads going

1321
00:51:26,870 --> 00:51:23,359
up on the oa4 mission are related to

1322
00:51:29,270 --> 00:51:26,880
materials processing so we've been

1323
00:51:32,470 --> 00:51:29,280
waiting for new materials to process in

1324
00:51:34,470 --> 00:51:32,480
microgravity and also new physical

1325
00:51:39,030 --> 00:51:34,480
phenomena to look at in microgravity

1326
00:51:41,270 --> 00:51:39,040
like brian's investigation the pbre

1327
00:51:43,109 --> 00:51:41,280
we're hoping to get those on orbit so we

1328
00:51:45,750 --> 00:51:43,119
can enable that type of research it's

1329
00:51:48,309 --> 00:51:45,760
great research it's the research that

1330
00:51:50,069 --> 00:51:48,319
once we have it on orbit we can operate

1331
00:51:51,990 --> 00:51:50,079
it pretty much at any time because there

1332
00:51:54,470 --> 00:51:52,000
are very there are no issues with shelf

1333
00:51:58,710 --> 00:51:54,480
life or having a human subject for only

1334
00:52:00,549 --> 00:51:58,720
a small time so those are the types of

1335
00:52:01,829 --> 00:52:00,559
investigations we've been working

1336
00:52:04,950 --> 00:52:01,839
through

1337
00:52:07,190 --> 00:52:04,960
as reserve science during the time when

1338
00:52:08,390 --> 00:52:07,200
we didn't have other scientific payloads

1339
00:52:10,069 --> 00:52:08,400
arrive

1340
00:52:11,270 --> 00:52:10,079
we're starting to run low on that end

1341
00:52:14,470 --> 00:52:11,280
because we're going through all that

1342
00:52:16,790 --> 00:52:14,480
reserve so this brings forward an entire

1343
00:52:19,510 --> 00:52:16,800
new category of those payloads that

1344
00:52:21,670 --> 00:52:19,520
we'll have on orbit ready to run at a

1345
00:52:22,950 --> 00:52:21,680
moment's notice

1346
00:52:27,750 --> 00:52:22,960
we have time for about two more

1347
00:52:31,430 --> 00:52:29,510
all right daddy cesar with the utica

1348
00:52:33,109 --> 00:52:31,440
phoenix with these satellites or

1349
00:52:35,589 --> 00:52:33,119
satellites i should say do you foresee

1350
00:52:37,829 --> 00:52:35,599
any possible applications of 3d printing

1351
00:52:39,190 --> 00:52:37,839
technology being applied to further cost

1352
00:52:40,390 --> 00:52:39,200
reduce

1353
00:52:46,069 --> 00:52:40,400
so

1354
00:52:47,910 --> 00:52:46,079
once you can create a system that isn't

1355
00:52:50,470 --> 00:52:47,920
always custom designed and the system

1356
00:52:53,430 --> 00:52:50,480
engineering is has to be done

1357
00:52:55,349 --> 00:52:53,440
and you can make a unit cell to produce

1358
00:52:58,309 --> 00:52:55,359
yes then you want to apply

1359
00:53:00,150 --> 00:52:58,319
all the technology you can at it so

1360
00:53:02,470 --> 00:53:00,160
the next stage would be to improve it

1361
00:53:04,950 --> 00:53:02,480
the next stage would be to assemble it

1362
00:53:07,510 --> 00:53:04,960
by 3d printing you could do 3d printing

1363
00:53:09,910 --> 00:53:07,520
on orbit you just keep going it's it's

1364
00:53:12,390 --> 00:53:09,920
now in a manufacturing

1365
00:53:14,710 --> 00:53:12,400
world and not a custom design every

1366
00:53:15,910 --> 00:53:14,720
satellite world so yes that's that's

1367
00:53:19,270 --> 00:53:15,920
exactly where you want to go with this

1368
00:53:21,349 --> 00:53:20,390
construction

1369
00:53:22,950 --> 00:53:21,359
of these

1370
00:53:24,790 --> 00:53:22,960
we've already put in proposals to do

1371
00:53:33,589 --> 00:53:24,800
that

1372
00:53:37,190 --> 00:53:35,510
mine was just a quick one and i hope i

1373
00:53:38,710 --> 00:53:37,200
didn't miss it but approximately how

1374
00:53:40,829 --> 00:53:38,720
many components will astronauts be

1375
00:53:43,349 --> 00:53:40,839
putting together for that three thousand

1376
00:53:45,589 --> 00:53:43,359
pounds one that you've been testing so

1377
00:53:47,829 --> 00:53:45,599
modeling so that one actually the three

1378
00:53:50,870 --> 00:53:47,839
three thousand is is currently a ground

1379
00:53:51,990 --> 00:53:50,880
demo only uh the next one that comes out

1380
00:53:53,030 --> 00:53:52,000
next

1381
00:53:57,109 --> 00:53:53,040
should be

1382
00:53:58,870 --> 00:53:57,119
uh 330 pounds 150 kilograms roughly 160

1383
00:54:00,549 --> 00:53:58,880
kilograms

1384
00:54:01,750 --> 00:54:00,559
that will have

1385
00:54:03,109 --> 00:54:01,760
uh

1386
00:54:05,190 --> 00:54:03,119
wow

1387
00:54:07,349 --> 00:54:05,200
it's it's pieces i'll say about 18

1388
00:54:08,549 --> 00:54:07,359
pieces 20 pieces and that won't be

1389
00:54:09,750 --> 00:54:08,559
assembled by

1390
00:54:11,430 --> 00:54:09,760
astronauts

1391
00:54:12,710 --> 00:54:11,440
that will actually be fitted to the side

1392
00:54:14,630 --> 00:54:12,720
of a

1393
00:54:17,510 --> 00:54:14,640
an esparing

1394
00:54:19,030 --> 00:54:17,520
and launched as a secondary on a main

1395
00:54:21,270 --> 00:54:19,040
falcon rocket

1396
00:54:23,510 --> 00:54:21,280
and again the the only difference is

1397
00:54:25,349 --> 00:54:23,520
instead of astronauts doing it in space

1398
00:54:26,630 --> 00:54:25,359
they'll do it on the ground and they'll

1399
00:54:29,589 --> 00:54:26,640
plug it together

1400
00:54:32,630 --> 00:54:29,599
and lock it down and it will ride so

1401
00:54:35,430 --> 00:54:33,589
okay

1402
00:54:37,270 --> 00:54:35,440
thank you to everyone who joined us this

1403
00:54:39,349 --> 00:54:37,280
afternoon for the science and technology

1404
00:54:43,030 --> 00:54:39,359
discussion up next we'll have the